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Everyone wants to know what the 800-pound
is doing. After all,
they are (not so) arguably leader as well as trendsetter in the pharma
And that means the
biotech business. So here’s whatthe world’s largest pharma company has to
say. JimMcLoughlin,
Director of Strategic Alliances at New York headquarter-based Pfizer Inc., shared
his insights
with me recently.
What disease areas is Pfizer looking into?
Pfizer, especially
after the acquisitions of Warner-Lambert (and Parke-Davis) and Pharmacia
(and Upjohn),
is involved in most disease areas. “We groupdiseases and therapy indications into 10 or
so groupsfor
management purposes,” says McLoughlin. “Andwe are interested in virtually every disease
category.”Dermatology
has come up recently as an area of inter-est. Organ transplant is one of the only
areas Pfizer isnot
actively looking at (although McLoughlin hedgeda bit on that). McLoughlin is loathe to
turn his attention
away from any category because of some excitingpotential he might miss that doesn’t fit
into a neat littlebox. “We are trying to be a nimble 800-pound gorilla.”
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What kind of deals do you like to do?
“People say that we
are just late stage. That’s nottrue.” McLoughlin is part of the Strategic Alliancesgroup that looks at
technology platforms and early-stage licensing (strategic alliances) prior to having alead candidate. They
go as far as, and a bit into, Phase1 entities. Herb Ormsbee (Senior Director,
Licensingand Development)
is part of Lisa Ricciardi’s groupthat starts at Phase 1 and goes forward
looking intolater
entities (Phases 2 and 3). The two groups dove-tail so that there is continuity.
As for deal
structures, Pfizer tries to create a dealthat will best suit the company they are
partnering
with, to maximize the partner’s ability to deliver. Sometimes that means cash,
other times it means something else — an extended research program, the ability
and capability to generate a chemistry family in support of patenting, other
downstream technologies in formulation, imaging or the potentialto more rapidly reach
a proof-of-purchase-concept Phase 2 endpoint.
When asked about what kind of deals
they like to do, McLoughlin and Ormsbee told a story recently
about how they like to start a
conversation with the
potential partner and see where it goes. Sometimes they start the conversation about
licensing a productand it leads to a deeper
discussion about other technologies the company has and sometimes to the company itself. They may
have been speaking of Pfizer’ s recentexperiencewithEsperion Therapeutics, Inc., a
biopharmaceutical company focused on the discovery and development of HDL-targeted therapies for the treatment
of cardiovascular
disease. That experience started as a conversation about a single entity and kept
expanding until Pfizer
purchased the whole company. Esperion is now a division of Pfizer Global Research and
Development.
“One of the reasons people come to
Pfizer is for ourability and track record of
building products — as wego earlier
and earlier [in the process of drug development]
we have a strong record of managing relation-shipsandbuildingproducts and matching opportunities
with internal capabilities (either in-house or brought in through partnership),’ says McLoughlin. One of the
biggest examples, at the moment, is Pfizer’s interest in biomarkers and related imaging capabilities.
What effect, if any, has there been on R&D since the absorption of the other two
pharma companies in recent years?
“The percentage of internal/external research hasn’t changed that much,”
comments McLoughlin.
“But our technology investments have changed.” Until recently the Strategic Alliances group has
beenlooking at genomic-type platforms
and other tools to
reduce attrition in the portfolio. “More and more now, we’re focusing on
candidate-producing collaborations while
continuing to partner at the later stage.”they
take the place of a traditional venture capitalistwhen it’s appropriate, by doing an equity deal,
particularly in early-stage companies.
However, Pfizer does
not have a separate VC arm.
So how many deals does an 800-pound
gorilla do a year?
Their strategic alliances number a couple of hundred a year, but they are pretty small investments. Pfizer will probably look to make about six clinicallicensingdeals (meaning Phases 1-3).
What’s your take on the current
licensing environment?
The licensing
environment has changed as a resultof
industry dynamics. VCs, for instance, are focusingon Phases 1 and 2. Also, pharma companies acrossthe board are having pipeline issues. There’s “a
lot ofpeoplechasingfewerthingsharder,”says
“I start to wonder if we’re
in a licensing bubble”
McLoughlin. The result is a seller’smarket.Additionally,
“We’re competing with VCs. We have to put in more diligence to make sure these leads are where
they should be.”
Most important for Pfizer is that
trials and testing
are done in a manner appropriate for the therapy indication. “So we talk to partners to make sure
thatstudies are done rigorously and
within an appropriatetimeline,” says
McLoughlin. “We usually see things as taking longer than our partners.”
The licensing environment is also
very active now. “I
start to wonder if we’re in a licensing bubble.” When the bubble bursts what’s
going to happen? “We’re not going to wait for that to happen. We’re
anticipating now.”
What’s on the horizon?
Looking at a window from now to
about three yearsout, McLoughlin is excited about
genomics and systems
biology. “These technologies are telling usother
ways to address either known or emerging targets.There’s no longer a tight focus solely on a target, aPD4 enzyme [cardiovascular — Pfizer’s Cardura
product]and a PD5 enzyme [erectile
dysfunction — Pfizer’sViagra product].
There’s something else. The way welook
at disease is just not straightforward anymore.”
McLoughlin’s personal interest is
in inflammation,
which is a perfect example of systems biology. “Inflammation has a bigger impact than anyone —well, most people — thought five or ten years ago.”
Who has the answers? “The best opportunities comefrom the scientists - they have a finger on the
pulse.”
